Question and answer part3

Richard Schmauch from United States

Hello Humphrey, I recently purchased the e-book CRT TV Repair Course and it definitely is a very solid read with loads of information, but I'm still having an issue with my TV which I'm wondering if you can help me out with.

I have a Magnavox 20" CRT TV which seems to work fine, but the volume takes forever to be able to hear the sound. It takes about 3 to 5 minutes to slowly hear the TV. If the TV's only off a bit, the sound will resume just fine, but if the TV's off for a while, you have to wait all over again for the sound to once again resume. It's definitely a nuisance.

What could be causing this, what could be done about this, and how much would it cost to get fixed. Again, it's a Magnavox 20" CRT TV with a model number of 20MT1331/17.

Sincerely,

Richard

This problem point to a problem on the audio circuit, most likely dry joints or capacitors,

First start with dry joints and if no change,  let the TV run for some times without the cover, switch it off and remove the power cable from the outlet and touch the top of capacitors around the audio circuit.

Whichever is getting hot should be replaced.

I am assuming you don't have an ESR meter otherwise testing capacitors with ESR meter will be able to catch those capacitors easily.

Regards Humphrey

Mitziras Tzitziras from Greece

Hello my friend! I need your help! I have a CRT TV 21" that changes channels itself. I have checked the remote control but it is ok. Can you help me?

Hi friend.

Sorry for the delay, use the chart below to guide.

Regards Humphrey

  

Hello my friend, I checked the tuner's pins (I have used the tuner as the ground): the first pin (near the antenna connector) has 9.5 volt, the second has about 12v, third has 0.6v, fourth has 0.55v, fifth has about 12v, sixth has variable voltage (the value changes when I push the channel button), seventh and eighth pins have 0v

I didn't found the 5v/35v that you told me

That is where the problem is, just find what is blocking that voltage

Regards Humphrey

 

Justus Mwinzi from Kenya.

Hi Humphrey regarding the email you received from Ernest Che may I say some technicians are in-human. Why am I saying this! Recently I have received a TV from customer for repair it had power supply problem.

I opened the back cover to start diagnosing, disconnected all the cables from the set. Before I disconnected the socket which powers the IR and the standby led two of its wires were connected to the main power chord by certain technician who handled it previously.

Very sad

I disconnected the two wires from the ac chord and I powered the TV set but first I connected the series bulb trick I learned from your DVD power supply repair. Now I got 298volts at the main capacitor but there was no any secondary voltage. After thorough diagnosis I found one transistor A1015 having a short between two legs.

After replacing this transistor I took voltage testing on secondary side and I now got B+160v , 27v for vertical i.c and driver of hot transistor c2383 ,other voltages were 15v and 9v.I was not happy with the b+  voltage because it was too high for a 15" TV

Correct! Standing ovation for you Justus.

I even thought it had killed the hot transistor but luckily it was spared. Now I removed one leg from of a resistor to the FBT and did a bit of soldering some dry joints and after checked the b+ voltage but now it had dropped to unstable voltage of 70v-77v.

I turned the preset which is on the feedback path to the opt isolator but no change in the  b+ .I salvaged another preset from another junk board and replaced and after taking the b+ voltage it was now 105v which gave me a smile.

Excellent!

I connected the other leg of the resistor to the FBT but the set could not even switch. From here I had to take the voltage reading of the coil to the HOT driver transistor but I got absolutely 0 volts. I concluded somehow there was a shorted component along that line, checking the HOT it was ok, and checking driver of HOT transistor c2383 onboard my meter confirmed it was shorted.

I removed it and measured it out of the board but it was found to be ok. Before I re-soldered the transistor still there was no voltage to this coil to HOT driver transistor. I now decided to take resistance check from the coil and cold ground and indeed the two lines had short.

 I decided to check the components before this coil I uprooted one electrolytic capacitor which filters this voltage to the driver transistor of the hot but after a certain resistor I found the two legs of this capacitor was twisted this was the cause of the short but It was done intentionally by  uncouth technician.

Awesome

After replacing this capacitor and re-soldered the transistor I powered the set but it could not switch .Now I connected the two wires and the standby led came on. I checked the h vcc to this driver of HOT transistor but no voltage at all even from the processor i.c so I think the processor TDA 11105 ps is faulty.

Hi Justus,

Thanks for your detailed report, but still I lost you at the end of your email.

Equipment from other technician are usually an headache but what I usually do is getting the circuit diagram of that TV and this help me to pick which components are replaced with wrong ones.

Voltage testing is the best in tracing fault component or track which may be broken due to careless handling.

You talked of soldering one leg out of a resistor and voltage appeared... Which resistor is this, what is its purpose?

Regards Humphrey

I just removed one leg of a resistor which goes to the primary pin of FBT so that the 160v did not reach to the HOT transistor

Oh, that resistor act as a fuse, means is open. Most likely due to shorted component ahead.

Regards Humphrey

That's 100% possible but for my case I just isolated the 160v and did re-soldering of the components along the feedback path then later test the this b+ voltage when the fusible resistor Is not connected to link the primary pin of the FbT.

Vimal Soma from India

Hello from India. I read your CRT TV troubleshooting blogs and I have learned many aspects about electronics troubleshooting from them. I am an electronics hobbyist. I have a LG Flatron CRT TV with chasis model CW62A which uses the HOT 2SC6090 and control IC STR X6556. It is now about 7 years old. It was on standby when it suddenly gave a tick-tick-tick sound.

The sound was coming from the relay of course. I inferred that the switch mode power supply was trying to start but was unable to do so. The HOT transistor 2SC6090 was indeed shorted. When I replaced it with a new one, the tick-tick-tick sound was gone and the TV status indicator was red, which means that the TV was indeed on standby.

When I switched on the TV using the remote control, the TV gave the tick-tick-tick sound again, and no picture appeared. What could be the problem?? Which section should I investigate? This is the first time I am troubleshooting a CRT TV. I am eagerly awaiting the results of your supreme insights. Thanking you in advance.

Regards,

Vimal Soma

Check and see if the HOT transistor is shorted again... If so change it again plus the snubber capacitor. Also be sure there is no dry joints around that area (fly back)

Also read this article for more info on this

http://www.electronicsrepairmadeasy.com/2015/12/hot-transistor-is-continuously-getting.html

Regards Humphrey

Yes the HOT is shorted again. I forgot to mention that. Thanks for the quick reply

 

Ernest kudakwashe from Zimbabwe...

Dear Doc Humphrey,

Here 21 inch TV showing thick line across. Changed the caps from the 35v ones to the 250v +plus 160v for HT. No change .tested the deflection coil voltages =red + blue->blue is 110v; black+ white 11 each vs CRT gnd. It has a side chopper and additional focus screen controls attached to the CRT base with HV red wire. 

La78040 when removed getting around 23v on the rails and when put back (new one) is around 10-11v with unchanged 23 volts from the supply diode. When you touch with a finger on the legs of the la78040 if flickers downwards

The tv with horizontal line, means which circuit is faulty According to your ebook?

Regards Humphrey

THE Vertical circuit comprising of the la78040/1

Good... Concentrate on that area especially capacitors, or diode shorted. Seems like this TV is very old and therefore if it has vertical height setting pot... Check if okay or someone has tampered with its settings

Regards Humphrey

Dear Humphrey

Long time, I did a swap of the micro and the screen went full. Meaning there was no signal from the Micro to the frame i.c pin 1. The original was 8859 and the previous tech put 8873

Wonderful report, go go Ernest

Regards Humphrey

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